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32 questions from our users

Thomas J.

Thomas J.asked

when i drive hard and i engine break in second gear from 5000 to 2500 rpm.
i get a f1 light.how come ?
its a 2015 model m109r and have a healtech sensor eliminator on,
turn power off and its gone every time



2 answers
JAC
JAC

FI light relates to your fuel injection system. Healtech normaly eliminates false FI lights. A few guys I know had similar issues, but all causes varied alot.
Try any of the following to rule it out;

1. Dirty fuel injectors. Fill with fuel injector cleaner for the next 3 tanks full of fuel to clean injectors. If still happening, try 2.

2. Replace fuel filter. Bit of a big job, but basicly tank needs to come of to replace it. Also check you dont have rust flakes in your tank as this can cause fuel filter to not work probably. Or 3.

3. Check healtech wiring is not scalded, pinched and harness contacts are secure and not loose.



4. Assuming you have replaced exhaust pipes or bought bike with non standars pipes? If so, you may have O2 eliminators installed, if so, make sure no vacuum leakage through O2 eliminators as think can trigger a false FI sensor to turn on.

5. If still have issues after all checks above, then may have to take it to an M109R capable mechanic to triubleshoot further and rectify as it may be trhe fuel injection model itself or potentially could be a faltering healtech sensor.

Good luck....

Thomas J.
Thomas J.

thx alot.ill try it out



Wayne

Wayneasked

I stripped the gear oil filler nut can I fill from the other plug?

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JAC
JAC

Yes, so long as filler plug case thread is ok and not shredded. Recommend to purchase a new filler nut.

Wayne
Wayne

Hey Jac I will replace but wanna ride now the other nut I'm talking about is the one that is dead center on the hub can I put the gear oil in there too till I get the new filler nut thanks

Randall B

Randall Basked

2013 M109R 8, 500 Mi swppp training exhaust Spike air filters flashed ECU the motorcycle started spitting and popping through the exhaust I have new plugs new fuel filter also throws under acceleration from a hard pull a f i 30 code which is the idle air sensor that I replace with two other ones and still throws the same code what's going on?

2 answers
JAC
JAC

You need O2 sensor eliminator, otherwise FI light always pop up and exhaust wil pop until fixed.

Randall B
Randall B

not a California model that does not have O2 sensor

DIRK V.

DIRK V.asked

The airfilter keeps coming loose from the bracket due to vibration, what can fix the problem?

1 answer
Wicked
Wicked

Loctite

X Z.

X Z.asked

I know this must not be a beginner bike, but I just love this unique look, can this be my first bike for my daily commute? (mostly highway and a bit bumps and hills in the city)

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Wicked
Wicked

It's a great commuter, but I wouldn't recommend it to be your first bike. It's big, heavy,and very powerful. There's more to riding then sitting there going straight on a freeway. Roads curve, people driving like idiots, etc. Get a small cheap bike to learn the basics then work your way up in bike size. Being on a bike is not a game. There's no do overs. Its life or death and survival. Most accidents are due to people thinking they can just jump on a bike and ride.

Wicked
Wicked

There's a video on youtube where a young man did what you're wanting to do. He bought an M109R for his first bike and he recorded his first ride. It shows him enjoying the ride then a car goes on his lane going toward him.Now an experienced rider had enough time to avoid the car, but this was his first bike.and you could hear him say "Oh crap" I think 3 times. The it took for him to say those words could've been used to avoid the on coming car. He hit the car head on and died. His mother posted the video. If you're young then what's the rush? You have your whole life ahead of you to enjoy riding. You don't want it to possibly end all because you don't want to take the time to learn. If there's a track near you do some track days. Get a used small ninja 300 and learn to race, or the very least, learn to maneuver the bike. Lastly, opening the throttle and going fast is addicting, and also EASY. Much like what most of the idiot kids on the road that ride crotch rockets do between cars. Skill comes when you can negotiate a hard turn with speed. Do some track days and learn to drag your knees. Just my 2cents.

Pat Fiori
Pat Fiori

As noted by the other comments, it's not a first time bike, bumps can have you losing control if riding experience is limited, at the twist of the throttle you will quickly be in three digits, the shear weight and the 240 rear tyre also come into play. Yes once on the go, it gives you confidence, but unless your riding skills are limited, there are definitely better suited bikes (even cruises) that will give you confidence especially in the wet. Good luck on your journey

anthonyfarmer1971

anthonyfarmer1971asked

Is it a good riding position for your back?

3 answers
Wicked
Wicked

It's an aggressive drag style seating so it's a little forward but not too much. It helps with this much torque . Keeps u from being thrown back. It's not a laid back position nor is it a beginners bike. Its big with overwhelming power. I've ridden over 500 miles in one day and no problem.

Steve212120
Steve212120

I added 2 inch extensions and it was very comfortable over long distance.

Pat Fiori
Pat Fiori

For me, I'm 6'1" so it gives me a relaxed feel and a slightly forward stance which I like now that I am in my older years. I feel in control, sit in the bike rather than on like a Harley, can ride longer with less pressures on the back and arms, fell seat helps for longer rides. Most importantly when you crack the throttle open and say bye bye to whoever you are leaving behind, the seat keeps you planted without being shot off the bike. Hope this helps.

Lew J

Lew Jasked

what is the Stock Rear tyre size & Specs on a 2008 Suzuki M109R and what is the widest tyre that I can fit to this bike. Thanks, Lew

1 answer
Wicked
Wicked

Stock tire is 240. You can go as wide as 280 from what I'm seeing in forums without using a 300 kit. I used a 250 and it was plenty wide and already a tight fit.

Groova

Groovaasked

Hi there, I have a 07 m109r and have put on freedom sharp curve radius plus k@N filters and power commander 5 with the cobra dragster map as recomended. I am experiencing a flat spot and vibration at 4000rpm even to the extent that I can wind it right on at these revs and doesnt pick up like anywhere else in the rev band. Any suggestions appreciated.

1 answer
Wicked
Wicked

Timing retarder helped my 09 flat spot. Mine was around 3k rpm They're not expensive so it would be worth a try .

BENJAMIN H.

BENJAMIN H.asked

i have a 2008 m109R recently my engine started cutting out and the f1 light came on. I could not make it home so I parked it overnight came back the next day after putting a can of sea foam in the tank. finally go-t it going well enough to make it home but after this the bike will start but only at idle if i give it gas it dies. so far i have checked the fuel pump, the spark plugs, the fuel filter, the injectors, all seem to be working properly. I do have a power commander unit installed, could this be the issue?

2 answers
Tony M.
Tony M.

have you checked if the right wires are in the right spot ???? I've been reading when a power commander is put in sometimes who-ever put one plug in the wrong plug hole. eg two plugs are that close the plug in front IS not the right plug. hopes this helps

mohamed l.
mohamed l.

I have the same issue tomorrow i will manage to bring an export to have a look and help me to start it.
i will share his findings if we managed to start it

Ismail B.

Ismail B.asked

there is a small rubber part attached to the right side of the speedometer to the riser which help reduce the vibration of the speedometer. any one knows the name of this part? 2015 Suzuki Boulevard M109R BOSS is the bike

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Mahmoud R.

Mahmoud R.asked

While i am on the second gear if i hit the throttle and the rpm goes high the motorcycle have some delay in speeding, as if the motorcycle is responding then not responding then responding then not responding. WHAT CAN I DO PLEASE HELP?

1 answer
dnlmclean
dnlmclean

There is a slight restriction when you pull full throttle, it seems if you give it a little less than full throttle it will accelerate quicker than full throttle. Sometimes fitting a K&N air filter can help, also de-restricting the exhaust can help too,, The M109R has a restriction in 2nd and 3rd gear, if you try to hold it at a steady speed in these two gears the bike will stutter quite a bit, this is because there two gears are restricted. You can fit a device easily which fools the bike in to thinking it is in 4th gear and it eliminates the restriction giving you full power in second and third gears. The device is reasonably priced and can be found in many motorcycle accessories shops, Hope this helps,
https://www.healtech-electronics.com/products/xtre/

Omy 2lay

Omy 2layasked

FI flashing loosing idling when hot

1 answer
dnlmclean
dnlmclean

Overheating maybe? make sure you use proper oil

Mark B

Mark Basked

Does anyone know if the pre 2017/2018 models m109r exhausts like a 2008 exhaust fit a 2017 model?

1 answer
Wicked
Wicked

I had an 09 full exhaust and fit perfectly on a 19. Everything should be interchangeable.

Captn Jack

Captn Jackasked

Fitting spike air filters do I need power commander or re mapping? the bike is fuel injection not carbs

1 answer
dnlmclean
dnlmclean

Only if you change the full exhaust system

brian

brianasked

what is a good oil for the m109?

2 answers
dnlmclean
dnlmclean

Castrol 10/40 T4 semi synthetic, Never use full synthetic

Wicked
Wicked

Been using full synthetic on mine since 09. No problem. Just make sure it's made for wet or semi wet clutch, otherwise clutch will slip.

David L

David Lasked

My 2012 Suzuki m109r has increased vibration felt in the hand grips and foot pegs essentially vibrating my whole body. What could be the issue?

2 answers
Milo
Milo

HI David this could be an unballanced wheel tyres, if your engine is not running well could be missfiring causing this as they are quite a large displacement, look for these first if not then investigate further like engine mounts head stem tripple clamps ( unlikely to effect the footpegs) could be a bent rim damaged wheel bearings possible exhaust loose as they weigh a hell of a lot and couod get a swing up with movement and exhaust pulse which is quite notacable. Let me know how you go mate.

dnlmclean
dnlmclean

Seen this before when the front rubber engine mounts wear,, there are especially made heavy duty ones available for the M109R,

Dude

Dudeasked

What valve adjustment is needed?

2 answers
dnlmclean
dnlmclean

Shouldnt need it unless over 100,000k

Wicked
Wicked

I had over 150,000 on mine with no needed valve adjustment. Self adjusting.

David L

David Lasked

Why could be the cause of increased vibration on my m109r?

2 answers
Milo
Milo

what sort of vibration are we talking ?

dnlmclean
dnlmclean

Front engine mounts,, but only if it is bad,, M109R does vibrate especially that 3000rpm mark

Grant

Grantasked

I was going to fit spike air filters to my m109R but the brackets did'nt look like they could hold the weight of the filter,
and was concern that they would come loose .
Has any one had this problem and is the someway of putting a second bracket on them?
Kind regards Grant

1 answer
Wicked
Wicked

If it's made for your bike then I'm sure they've considered that issue.

Brewersinaz

Brewersinazasked

What changes were made from say 2007 to a 2017?

1 answer
magnum
magnum

Biggest change was in 2011 models they improved the clutch, what I have heard the 2011's on do not suffer from the well known clutch shudder the earlier 9's had. They also relocated the tach into the headlight housing and added a gear indicator.

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