birdmanmike
birdmanmike ·  · Kangoo X76.I (2004-2007)

Hi folks, I have 2006, 1.6 petrol, auto. Modified for wheelchair. My problem is sudden loss of power. I wondered if it was going into limp mode but it is worse than that. Will sometimes limp; sometimes idle but stall on drive and sometimes snuff out altogether. Will restart immediately but resumes trouble condition. Will usually fix itself after 30+ minutes switched off. Extremely dangerous if it snuffs on bridge or multi lane freeway. One observer noticed that the throttle body doesn't seem to be moving freely when the trouble is happening. Since they are fly by wire, I wonder about the sender unit from accelerator pedal. Or the receiving unit at the other end? Anybody experienced same or got any suggestions? Otherwise, 65k and no other problems.



ferkemall
ferkemall · 

Hello far away person, yes its fly by wire you will have to get it diagnosed at either the dealers or a transmission shop because of the Renault clip software involved, you can use an ordinary diagnostic unit for engine trouble codes but anything to do with the transmission it has to have the clip software it's there way of generating more millions.

Renaults are loaded with computer based faults transmissions suffer from complex software plus the gear box suffers bad cooling and has 3 sensors one of which is a condition sensor it reads the viscosity/heat of the fluid and will trip limp mode if the fluid gets to hot or to thin.
I drive a 1.6 renault modus it's the same basic set up you have this trans unit is used in Peugeot/citrons/renault over a wide rang of models.
It has a fluid condition counter in the computer so even if you only top it up you have to set the software, if you have a fluid change the counter has to be zeroed or it will keep tripping.

My advice is if you are going to keep the vehicle change the fluid on or before 30,000 miles get the counter reset, fit an aftermarket cooler wit an inline filter and put a couple of magnets on the metal pan. Only use fully synthetic fluid in these units, renault will say never change the fluid, yet every other auto trans mfg says change the fluid at 30,000 miles, the reason for this is that debris from the clutch packs with the steel spacers keeps getting pumped around the system causing damage to the solinoids valves (evm) valve body/seals/bearings/bushings/torque converter, etc. plus metallic particles can short out electrics in the unit.
If its keeps going into limp mode get it fixed because driving it in third gear (limp mode) will damage the gearbox.
They have other things that can trip limp mode such as a defective brake switch, bad earth on body and back lights/corrosion in the fuse/relay box /bad electrical connectors .
Check out peugeot/renault recalls from the UK warranty website then go onto YouTube and checkout AL4 /DPO problems and any renault/Peugeot web forums.
Well I hope this helps you mate if you get anymore probs let me know.
peter in the UK!

birdmanmike
birdmanmike · 

Peter, thanks a million. That sure is a lot to be going on with. Beauty of the internet - a man in UK can help a bloke in Australia. Thanks again. Mike



ferkemall
ferkemall · 

That's OK mate, you need to get as much info on these set ups as possible. I bought a tablet its an A33 it has a function where you can copy any video without the need for any software its called screenrecord and I use it to record YouTube videos on any and everything to do with citrone/renault/Peugeot as they use common parts systems. I also record how systems work and how to test them because there is always some good old boys out there who find away to do it, plus there are instructional vids to be had. I just keep recording them and have built up a database of these by putting a 32gig card in and saving the vids to the card and onto a memory stick, there are some PDF files too. I found a citrons one on the transmission with exploded views and a lot of text on how the system works and why.
Hope it helps you, check it all out.
Regards a pom!

ferkemall
ferkemall · 

OK me again I downloaded 3 PDF on the AL4 they are the official renault/Peugeot/Citron trainng manuals basicaly the fluid counter counts up to 32,000 units I assume this is miles as it falls inline with all other advice from from every other automatic transmission manufacturer to change the fluid at 30,000 miles, it was the Citroen PDF that I got this from, it triggers the flashing snow light/limp mode and it means it's time to change the fluid, few owners of automatic vehicles realise that fluid needs to be changed at 30,000 miles, Renault/Peugeot/Citroen all sold these cars on sealed for life thing saying they only need topping up now and again but in reality it only caused problems for the owners but made millions for the dealers.
One thing you will hear time and again is oh if it goes into limp mode just pull over turn it off and it will reset itself it will but it will return and after 3 resets it logs the fault because of the expense of getting it scanned and the software needed to diagnose/reset the counter or the cost of buying the scanner people tend not to do it they either keep putting up with it or sell it cheap, if you bought one of these cars get it scanned get a fluid change and it should should last if the old EMV valves have been replaced.
All of the above manufactures use this transmission unit in one form or another because of the bed press they say they have bought out a new unit but it seems it is just a modified AL4 unit perhaps it will be better who knows time will tell.
Me I would be happy if they put an old Borg Warner 35 set of guts in it no computers no chips but then the dealers would go broke!

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