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Liebherr WKB4611
AntonySydney
- Verified purchase
Not possible to get close to advertised storage capacity
I bought this because I was not particular happy with the tight shelving on my Vintec V110SGES3 - 121 bottle fridge, where the shelves are fixed distances from each other, and which means a lot of label scraping when trying to get shelves out. This is a particular problem for many of the larger bottle shapes we get in Australia.
I had this delivered this week. On attempting to stack it today, I realised the internal dimensions mean that there is no way that you can get close to the 195 bottle capacity advertised.
Wine fridges usually adve...Read more
rtise their capacity based on Bordeaux bottle sizes, which is fine, however, there is a significant difference between the shelve depth of my Vintec and the Liebherr. The Vintec shelve depth, between front and back lip, is 51.5cm, whereas the Liebherr is 43.3. As such the shoulders clash far more significantly in the Liebherr. If I try to stack the bottles in the 5/4 matrix (5 forward/4 back) the front 4 have to lift up to sit on the shoulders of the back 5. This is not the same for the Vintec, where the extra 8cm makes enough difference for the stacking to work for many Australian bottle shapes. I can get about 90 bottles in the 121 bottle Vintec and that includes a 6 bottle wooden case. I don't expect I would get much over half in the Liebherr.2 comments
A number of weeks later, I felt I should update this post. I decided to keep the fridge. I have now got 152 bottles in it, but that includes a number of half bottles (about 15). It took me a number of... Read more
days to get it stocked as it needed some careful bottle arrangement to maximise storage. I intend to leave this fridge stocked for the longer term storage, so won't need to unpack it any time soon. I am not sure how I can ever pull out one of the shelves, as I am pretty sure the second and third tier on each shelf would topple sideways, but that's a problem for the future.
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Dave CRichmond-Tweed, NSW
- 3 reviews
- 6 likes
- Verified purchase
The best designed wine Fridge and best value for money in the Market
This fridge does not have a glass door.Therefore it is better insulated than its competitors and holds a more uniform temperature over its internal space. The shelving is intelligently designed so that dense stacking of bottles with a shorter fatter profile is possible. With some other brands, the stacking density is reduced by up to 50% because it cannot cope with these bottles. Pinot Noir typically uses these bottle shapes. The inter shelf height distances allow for efficient stacking without wasted impractical space Because a glass door is ...Read more
not fitted, the price is much lower for the same sized fridge- a huge advantage. The controls are easy to use and the operating temperature is always visible. The fridge is QUIET so can be situated where noise is not tolerable. The manufacturer is a large well established company so service should not be difficult. The finish is black all over so the cabinet whilst large is unobtrusive in appearance. It is not beautiful but it is a great performer.1 comment
Andi-Co A.Liebherr
Hi Dave,
Thank you for your very positive review of your new Liebherr wine cellar. ... Read more
We love reading that you appreciate the features as much as we do. Kind regards, Taneille Andi-Co Customer Care 1300 650 020
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Questions & Answers
Sanathasked
Hello. I purchased a slightly used fridge from someone moving interstate and even when he had it he thought it took a long time to change the temperature.
We have had it for under six months and I hear the wine fridge working all the time to maintain the 12 degree temp. When our Samsung main fridge in the house seems to be so much more efficient. Please advice what can be wrong with this thanks.
4 answers
Wine fridges are designed to work differently to normal fridges. The way to kill good wine is to change the temperature quickly. They therefore have small cooling systems
which are only capable of changing the temperature very slowly. There is NOTHING at all wrong with this. They still have the capacity to slowly cool to 12-13 Deg C which is ideal storage temperature .. without the risk of sudden temperature change.
Also when a wine fridge is filled up, the thermal capacity of a large volume of liquid (many wine bottles) is large and helps to prevent sudden temperature changes.
Cheap young wine is not very sensitive to sudden temperature change but older expensive wine becomes very sensitive to rapid temperature change which is why the fridge works in the manner you have observed. Cheers
Thank you very much for addressing my concerns Dave. Please let me know if it’s normal for the wine fridge to work much longer than a normal fridge to maintain the temperature. I called two appliances technician and explained the situation and one of them said the cost to repair this would be around $600 and the other said it need to be re-gassed for under $100 please let me know if I should continue to use it this way. Thanks so much. Sanath.
Andi-Co A.Liebherr
Hi Sanath,
As long as the temperature in your wine cellar is being maintained, there is no fault with your appliance. It can be normal for the fan to run continuously in the Liebherr Barrique wine cellar range if the temperature set to 12° and above (depending on ambient temperature and bottle capacity). If the temperate is set between 5° - 11° the fan will cycle. This is normal operation. If you wish to discuss this further, please do not hesitate to contact us on 1300 650 020 or [email protected].
Warm regards,
Taneille
Andi-Co Customer Care
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Antony
After further research, I think I've discovered from a French site, that a 'Standard Bordeaux' bottle is 28.8cm, just under 11.5 inches where the shoulder is at 9 inches. Most of my Austalian bottles ... Read more
are 12 inches, with the shoulder at 9.5 inches, which is why they do not fit. I am considering now whether to hang on to the fridge as I have now worked out I can get probably 130 bottles in the fridge by selecting the right set of bottles, which would still be cheaper per bottle than buying another Vintec.