TerryJBrisbane
- Challenger PC (2013-2015)
- Verified purchase
Solid and reliable 4wd
PC Challenger is our only vehicle; city driving and a vehicle we also use for outback travel, either towing our camper or using swags. I have done 50,000km now and would not leave a review with any less mileage as most new cars go OK when brand new and with little off road work.
It's an easy car to drive around the city (auto transmission) fitted with a tight turning circle; it's not too long or too wide which gives no stress parking. The fuel consumption around town was initially high, but since getting an ECU remap and a performance exhaus...Read more
t/catalytic converter, along with the motor being run-in, this has improved a lot. Expect around 8.5 to 9 L/100km highway (lightly loaded) and anywhere from 9.0 to 13 L/100km around town, depending on traffic. Towing our camper van that can weigh up to 2 tonnes with a full load, and we get anywhere from 12 to 16 L/100km, probably 13.5 L/100km long term average. The plastics in the interior are low quality, and the silver paint on the plastic surrounds of the power window switches dissolved away with greasy hands from sunscreen within the first few months of ownership. I have heard the silver-trimmed plastic on the new Challenger incarnation, the Pajero Sport, is no better. There are a few dash rattles and frazzles, but they generally go away once everything is up to temperature. The front legroom is not capacious, so if you are much over 180cm tall or have really long legs you may not be able to get comfortable for long trips. My base model has no lumbar adjustment on the seats, but I use a lumber support and now find the seats comfortable. The white paint has proven to be scratch and chip resistant, and is of reasonable thickness. Excellent exterior finish for the money, and for a Thailand built vehicle. I have done more than 20,000 km dirt and off-road travel, including the Simpson Desert, and whilst the vehicle has not been trouble free it has never let me down. The PB and PC Challengers have a design flaw, in that the tube-nut on the power steering supply line to the steering rack comes loose on corrugated roads, causing the loss of all power steering fluid. Mine did this around the 10,000km mark, when I was near Coongie Lakes, NW of Innamincka. Although I found the issue quickly I had to drive about 600 km before I could get some new fluid. When I got back home Mitsubishi did not want to know about the problem, and I had to force them to change the pump fluid around 8,000 km later. Now, after every few hundred kilometers dirt road driving I check the nut, and usually nip it up half a turn or so. Why Mitsubishi never fixed this problem during the 5 year model run is beyond me. Another issue with the steering occurred at about 17,000 km; it developed a loud, intermittent clunk, felt mostly as a vibration through the steering. After I complained about it enough, the dealership looked at it properly and found the steering column to be faulty. This was replaced under warranty and the problem went away, and 30,000 km later this replaced steering column is still going strong. The vehicle has some steering rack rattle over rough ground, which has got worse with age. However, the positive news is the steering has excellent road feel, but under rough road conditions you will feel some, but not excessive, vibration through the steering. The motor and transmission have given me no problems. This vehicle sets no benchmarks for sophistication, noise, vibration or harshness, but I think they are a great vehicle. I often use the paddle shifters (standard on the auto) both on and off road. I had the auto serviced at 45,000 km (the recommended interval with hard use). The local auto shop said the fluid and the pan where clean, and they could not give me a rebuild price for the auto because they "never have problems with them". Note: this vehicle has a large auto-transmission cooler as standard, something the auto Hilux and Prado don't have; thumbs up Mitsubishi and thumbs down for Toyota. The cost of servicing is higher than with a Toyota but not unreasonable, especially if you stay away from the dealers as I have mostly done. The tappets are supposed to be checked and adjusted every 30,000km, but this is ridiculous. I will, however, take the vehicle to my local stealer-ship for the 60,000km service in the faint hope they will do a tappet adjustment as part of the $600 fixed price service. Tappet adjustment is a big job, with the inlet manifold and injector fuel lines having to come off, so it will be good value if they actually do this work, rather than just check it with a stethoscope, which is what most do.Similar opinion? Write a review on ieatwords.com.au!
Cam
- 2 reviews
- 2 likes
My favourite car
2015 car. 15k on now, really happy. It old school, noisy grungy fella but unstoppable off road. Rear lock diff superb. 9.2 fuel economy running from Brisbane to Rainbow Beach(3hours). drives like a car, great space for family of four. Smashes the beach driving. I love it . 5 STAR
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Ando8Yeppoon
- 2 reviews
Good vehicle for price
Purchased new in july 2015. $33815 but up to $40,000 with all accessories. Still miles in front of opposition. Good ride and love the bluetooth and reversing camera. Turbo lag is a bit of a bummer and fuel is a bit higher than expected. Tows a camper trailer ok. Fitted poly air bags to level ride out. Done 18,000 km now and no problems,
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Bernie dVBolwarra NSW
Update on March 2015 "OK" Review
Mitsubishi ultimately replaced the engine just out of warranty after an extended period. One dead engine after 140,000 kms which was not unusual for vehicles used for anything other than light work. The car yeard had a nice collection of Tritons with the same engine also waiting replacement.
Second engine has just died after about 40,000kms. The lessons I take from this are that the 2.4lt turbo diesel is not the engine you want for the car you want for serious off road towing or as a laden work vehicle. I would be very concerned if I was looking at the Pajero Sports which has the same engine and an (alleged) greater towing capacity. It is a problem waiting to happen.
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Alegend86Brisbane
- 4 reviews
- 3 likes
Great Car it Will Impress You
2012 PB Challenger 4x2 excellent on Diesel can get bout 800km out of tank. Big cargo area space, nice & roomy, service a little expensive though, 15km $600, 30km $1200, will go independent for next service. Engine a little noisy when cold but other than that great quality car for the price. Has a lot of power when putting the foot down quite impressed by that, factory CD player not the greatest suggest an up grade on that. I've done 65,000km and still on the original tyres there only half worn so pretty happy with that also.
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Chrisalan
- 6 reviews
Great truck underated
My PA is the 2001 coil spring model, with poly air bags fitted to the rear coil springs, the MK Triton safari snorkle is the almost exact fit for the Challenger PA model, fits up to 2005 when the PB model came out, Holden VT cargo barriers fit the truck for 100 bucks, why pay 500 for genuine ones? Mine is a daily driver around Sydney and going bush on weekends, very reliable truck, a bit low on headroom for people over 6 feet tall, but robust design, much better styling than the Pajero. My fuel was 10.5 L/pl country cycle and this dropped down ...Read more
to 9.5 using K/N air filters and high quality leads and plugs. Can easily be used to car camp when going bush on weekends, as others have done I have raised the suspention 40 mil (springs will lift 50 mil and coils 40 mil) mine has OME HD coils and HD steering shock, makes a vast difference, also 32 inch AT tyres give the truck a further 2 inch lift. The only real letdown is the short range fuel tank, it's a small 74 litre only tank, so country running you will get under 600 k per tank, if a 120 litre tank was put in then the truck would be an outstanding long range performer. Overall a great truck and seriously underrated. Note : Product review has the PA Challenger series going till 2008, that is incorrect, no PA series 1 and series 2 were made after 2006.Similar opinion? Write a review on ieatwords.com.au!
Excellent fuel economy for a 4x4 and capability,
First off all I waited to write a review on this for the last 4 years so I could put my Challenger to the test.
I cannot understand when people say fuel economy is bad. What do you expect from a 1950kg vehicle 5Lt / 100KM???? Are you working your consumption out properly?? Dont look at the display as this is inaccurate over the time used, if you want up to time average you must press the reset button every so often to get up to minute accuracy or just fill tank and work out lt/100km. I have a manual, but dont think the auto would be more than...Read more
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Karl SAustralia
- 8 reviews
- 13 likes
Great mid-sized 4WD wagon for travelling (2001 Montero Sport)
We bought a automatic 3L 6cl 2001 Montero Sport (what the Challenger is called in South America) with 140,000km on the clock and had it for 3 months and did another 18,000km on it in that time. The new owners have done another 15k so-far, and no issues.
We converted it into a camperwagon with a foldout bed in the back that still allowed up to 4 adults to be seated and comfortably slept 2 inside. It was a great car and only needed an oil and oil filter change done as it had a major service just before we bought it.
Super comfortable to dr...Read more
ive on the highway with AT/hwy tyres. We did many 8+ hour days in Chile driving up and down the coast chasing waves. Cruise control, straight roads and music makes trips easy. Also did a bit of 4WDing drove on firm and soft sand, mud, shallow ford crossings, rocky trails and more, including some of the most atrocious 'roads' I've ever seen while in Bolvia. Never skipped a beat and the engine had plenty of power to keep speed up in the sand. Just make sure you drop the tyre pressure. Fuel economy was reasonable for a 4WD of this age and engine size. About 10-11L/100km on the highway and 13-14L/100KM around town. Correct tyre pressure makes a big difference for economy and handling. The bad parts: - Rust was forming inside the moonroof gap due to the seal going hard and slightly leaking, so check for thatSimilar opinion? Write a review on ieatwords.com.au!
BillTownsville
- 2 reviews
- 2 likes
Good vehicle let down by fuel economy
I enjoy driving the Challenger and it is excellent on rough roads and off road. The diff lock makes it very capable off road.
I am average height but find entering the vehicle a little difficult. The roof is too low because I often hit my head. The steering column is too low because I have difficulty getting my legs under the steering wheel. Once you are in driving it is a pleasure. It does have a noisy automatic transmission but in top gear it is very quiet. Dash board and Instruments are good but at midday the sun makes the reversing camera ...Read more
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Harvey WilsonSouth East Queensland, QLD
- 100 reviews
Great vehicle but Link system needs work
I upgraded recently from a Lancer to the Challenger and am quite impressed at my first 4WD.
Power is reasonably good, especially when the turbo kicks in. Despite other comments, I don't find it particularly noisy, I can still have a conversation without having to raise my voice and the Bluetooth hears me fine without raising my voice also.
I haven't been offroad yet, but have used 4WD mode and you can certainly feel the difference. I will update after I experience offroad driving.
The Link system with the 6.1" screen was a big update f...Read more
or me. My Lancer didn't have the touchscreen. On the plus side, I can use a USB drive (nicely hidden in the glovebox) up to 32GB for music. It does Bluetooth streaming as well, but the volume of the music is dependent on the phone volume as well as the car, so I tend to not bother with it. As much as I like the screen, I do actually miss the convenience of having buttons I can feel for without having to look away from the road.Similar opinion? Write a review on ieatwords.com.au!
Better than expected!
We purchased our Challenger new in 2011 (LS Auto, Seven seat), 4x4 system is fantastic, has surprised many people in their Toyota's. Fuel economy took 45k to drop under 10L/100km, tows camper trailer easily. Huge rear cargo area. Factory stereo is rubbish, had it replaced with Alpine system with DVD in headrests.
Some of the door trims are showing wear after 70k....kids are pretty rough on cars! Rear suspension changed under warranty in first 10k (leaking). Servicing is a little expensive, but only once a year. Speedo is way out compared to GPS 118kmh on dial to do 110 on GPS. Over all has been a good car and much better value for money than other brands!
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JacrispIllawarra, NSW
- 20 reviews
Excellent family 4wd
Great 4wd for a great price. Used to ship the family to the shops, tow our camper trailer and offroad some decent trails to the ability of the tyres.
This is a sub $40k vehicle based off an agricultural ute so do not expect Toyota Prado luxury and comfort. For of the price it does well and I have no regrets.
Fuel usage is better than expected, 9L/100km on combined and mid 8's for freeway. This is with a bullbar and auto transmission.
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Dan
- 2 reviews
- 1 like
Dependable and very good off road performance
Bought this car new (7 seats, automatic) when first came out in Australia and now at 100,000km. The car is easy to drive but lolls about on tight corners, pretty much as all other mitsubishi 4x4's have, but in its unmodified form it handles well off road, including mud, sand, loose rock and through deep ruts as it's not too heavy, has good ground clearance and reassuringly has a ladder chassis. The diff lock has served well where recovery gear would normally have been necessary. Paint work does chip easily and the metal body panels are fairly t...Read more
hin (making it light weight), but the plastic bumpers and tire protectors mean that basically no dents sustained off road. Fuel economy is reasonable at 9L/100km when not towing. Space in the back is a little tight with all 7 seats up, but at the time we looked, all models with a similar spec had this problem except very large 4x4's. There have been several ECU updates done on the car to make it less noisy and run cooler. One run of Challengers had welding joint problems at the front (product recall) but not ours, so cannot comment further on that. We've had zero reliability issues with the car so far. The ride is comfortable, but this is by no means a luxury vehicle. Highly recommend seat covers as the cloth ones are not invincible. I would not hesitate to buy this as a second hand model because I know that it will easily survive heavy duty driving, as long as the maintenance schedule is followed and it's kept clean etc, as all 4x4's should be after off road use.Similar opinion? Write a review on ieatwords.com.au!
Mike1405Greater Melbourne (Outer), VIC
- 4 reviews
- 5 likes
Highly reccommended and good tow vehicle
I purchased a new 2012 LS manual as this was the only manual option.
I regularly tow a HQ race car on steel tandem trailer with tyre rack and gear . all up about 2800kg.
Whilst a little slow off the mark it tows really well.
Recently had the ECU engine mapping reflashed to see if this will improve by Mits service team. hope to see an improvement.
Don't expect to get much better than15 to 16 litres /100 kms.When towing large load at 100 to 110 km/hr.
Around town Iget 9.5 to 10 ltrs with calm accelleration.
Have been really plesed with thi...Read more
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SquidKing
- 10 reviews
Awesome if you want a value 4wd
Just put around 3000km on my PC Challenger Auto Trans, couldn't be happier and the kids love it too.
We purchased the Challenger for sub $40k as an ex demo which is amazing value, I have found the challenger is
a strong pass in all areas the engine is powerful enough, the interior is good and the space is very good, the kids
love the reclining rear seats and seat height so they can see outside easily. Fuel economy is as expected if you drive it in traffic or push it you'll be around 12l/100, on longer stretches its under 10l/100km. We'...Read more
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AYamNSW, 2125
- 15 reviews
Great Off road driving
While we thought we wanted an SUV that was a good off-roader while affordable, we never actually tested our MIT 2011 Challenger bought new in June 2011, other than a few trips to the farm. Recently had a chance to drive on the sand dunes at Stockton. Our Challenger absolutely licked whatever we threw in her way.
No problem whatsoever up and down the soft and steep Sand dunes. Even the soft sand on the beach was no issue, though I did see a Prado bogged down!
I hv even more appreciation of my car now.
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AFKPeel, WA
- 54 reviews
- 7 likes
Falling in love with this car!
I needed a bigger car to tow a bigger caravan than what we currently own. Searched the review sites - Prado seems a good vehicle but price is very off putting. Nothing from Nissan, Ford or anything else seemed appealing - decided to go for 4x4 diesel for a life change, able to go off road and 3 tonne towing looked good despite not wanting to tow any more than about 2300kg. The Challenger started to look good - I read all the stuff about "noisy engine" "rear view mirror vibrates at idle" "handles like a brick" "not over powerful" "radio not good...Read more
" "vague steering" etc. etc. I ended up test driving a 2011/2012 xls and enjoyed it so much I purchased it. Okay so the radio is not so flash on distant stations, but for local stations it is very good and the usb music plays very well. The drive is very good for a vehicle this size - I read that the 2012 model had improved computer programme for exhaust emission, plus improved sound deadening - well it must have worked because whilst you know its a diesel whilst accelerating (and all diesels sound like this) once you hit any kind of cruising speed it is remarkably quiet and smooth and it actually handles pretty good, no complaints. The steering is probably designed the way it is because its an offroad vehicle - its not a big issue at all and in fact when towing it is good that it is not so direct and reactive. I have towed a 1600kg van for 400 klm 1st trip - towed at 100klm hr (max speed limit) - yes there is turbo lag but its predictable and the car actually tows very well, pulls the load comfortably - fuel consumption was approx 15L /100klm for the 200k trip and around 13.5 L /100klm for the return. Without the van have been running at aorund 10L 100/klm overall and the range is 8.6L /100klm freeway to 12L 100/klm city and town driving. The leather seats are quite comfortable, the seating position is high but this is proving to be great (have a great vision) - well equiped with 5 speed sports shift auto, reverse camera, blue tooth for the phone which works very well, HID discharge lights, 17" alloys and factory towbar - Its a pity that there seems to be so much bias against Mitsubishi as they make good vehicles (I have owned a few including Outlander which is also a good vehicle - Both the Challenger and the Pajero are worth a test drive - The Pajero is also an outstanding tow vehicle, but the Challenger looks great and is better for what I need. Looks great; Drives well; great cargo space; plenty of cabin space; good fuel economy for big vehicle; good towing; heaps of features Fuel tank is too small (only 70 litres); tow bar sticks out (but better than ugly tyre on rear of vehicles); perhaps could have more storage spotsSimilar opinion? Write a review on ieatwords.com.au!
AndysFarmHobart, TAS
- 25 reviews
Great value for money 4WD with good off road capability
Just completed a two week camping road trip around Victoria with our 2014MY Manual PC 5 seater Challenger. Very happy and given the price difference betwen a Pajero and Prado I consider this better value for money. Very good cargo capacity even with the rear seats up. This was one of the main selling features for me. check it out!!. Generally I have no trouble achieving aroung 9l/100km driving easy but with a full load including loaded roof platform, A/C on and travelling around 100kmh this can blow out to 11l/100km. The car is comfortable to d...Read more
rive even though the seats are a bit hard and good visibility. The manual does pull quite well in a higher gear but needs to be rowed through the gears to get the best performance. Turbo lag is noticeable but with anticipation and carefull driving not a real problem. The steeing does require a few turns on windy roads and manouvering but good on the open road. You will buy this for its 4WD prowess which with the super select and rear diff lock will provide capacity to go almost anywhere the big name 4WD's will go. If you only want it for a shopping trolly this is not the car for you. The 2.5l diesel is a bit noisy and can intrude into the cabin. We have found this to be a great touring car with good off road capacity and plenty of room to easily fit all our camping and touring gear in. Although only 12,000 k on the clock so far but no problems at all and could highly recommend this vehicle for touring on and off road. Update March 2020 - 100,000 kilometres. Still very happy with this car. Apart from scheduled servicing the only replacements have been new tyres (replaced original Bridgestone H/T with Bridgestone Duellers A/T), new Battery (the OEM battery has a relatively low CCA rating so when it failed in 2022 upgraded to a larger capacity battery), and a couple of light globes. The car still runs faultlessly and I would fully recommend this model as a good second hand reliable purchase providing it has been well maintained and not thrashed.Purchased in December 2021.
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airlockSouth East Queensland, QLD
- 9 reviews
- 4 likes
a bit agricultural
traded a 2004 jeep grand cherokee for the 2010 challenger in hopes of getting better fuel economy and reliability, any one who as owned a jeep can testify that an RACQ membership is essential as opposed to simply being prudent.
The Challenger is based on the triton ute and this shows in some of its design, a simple plastic dash on the LS version seems hard wearing but is ugly and reflects sunlight on bright days, we cured this with a fabric overlay.
The suspension is bouncy when breaking and cornering but no more then many other rivals and...Read more
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AndrewFMelbourne
- 5 reviews
- 11 likes
Very capable 4WD/tourer
Purchased new, manual with rear diff lock. Quite economical (getting approx 8.5l/100) when new using the standard road tyres and standard suspension (although the standard suspension seemed to transfer some small vibration and jarring from sharp bumps etc).
Engine wise, it’s an older tech 2.5l, with a bit of turbo lag and lacks low rev torque, but either an ECU re-map (which I did) or a (good) chip fixes that.
After changing the road tyres to reasonably aggressive, robust AT's and replacing the standard suspension (new shocks, coils with ...Read more
a 2" lift and castor correction kit) the handling and ride was transformed. These modifications would be required with *all* new 4WD's if you intend to use it as an actual 4WD, not just M&D's soccer car, picking up the kids or a shopping trolley. Altho bear in mind, changing the tyre type and size will consume at least another 1 to 2l/100 depending on how aggressive the tyre choice is. As a 4WD, it's very capable with good articulation (needs after market under body protection as all new 4WD's do) and rear diff lock works quite well, although the traction control doesn't kick in until reasonably high revs (1300 revs or so I think off memory) and I wish the low range was lower. Once the snorkel, dual battery installation etc was done the vehicle was a very capable and reasonably economical 4WD or tourer with good storage space.Similar opinion? Write a review on ieatwords.com.au!
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What procedure would you use to change transmission oil on pb challenger? What oil is recommended for this transmission? Is transfer case a separate reservoir and if so, what oil is recommended for it?Thanks Bill.
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Bernie dV
Third engine died. Mitsubishi customer service still ordinary. Looking for resolution on the basis that unfortunately this vehicle was a lemon and needs to be retired gracefully.