have had 4 navmans over the years,decided to give garmin ago,purchased a 65lm,found out,speed,red light cameras and school zones are extra to downloads to buy,comes standard in the mapping system with navman.updated to lmt version,not much better,may be good for the states no good for Australia.going back to navman a far better product.but found all gps systems are far behind "where is "mapping as far as up to date and accurate mappind and warnings,was told it is updated every 5 minutes,may buy a smart phone instead