Breville The Custom Loaf Pro BBM800 Questions & Answers (page 4 of 5)

Hello Ansdong: I'm too lazy to mess around with a sourdough starter I'm afraid, however, I have had success using the Laucke premix Barossa Sourdough 2.4 kg size bread mix pack which contains 4 x 600gm premix parcels.

Laucke has provided guidance to use 15% less water than is stated on the package for the premix product (and I use a little less than 15% water), that could vary depending on altitude apparently. For a decent result I used: 400 ml water, 600gm packet of Laucke Barossa Sourdough Rye Premix, and 1/3 teaspoons of the Laucke supplied yeast. Using those quantities, and the Crusty setting on the Breville BM800, the bread takes about 3 hours 20 minutes to complete its cycle.

Hope this works for you.

Robin

Hi Robina, thank you for the reply. Much appreciated.
I bought the Laucke Barossa Sourdough and baked it just 30 mins before I received your reply. I followed the instructions on the package. Guess what? My dough rose and overflowed the pan and then the top sank after baking. It was an ugly loaf. :( I used 480 ml water and 1 and a half teaspoon of yeast! No wonder the dough is revolting. Lol .
Will try your suggestions of 400ml water and a third tsp of yeast.

Regards
Ansdong

Hi Mineeb, as per P53 of the manual the air bubbles are caused by too much water and/or yeast. The top of the bread may also collapse. Try adjusting the amount of water or yeast. As for your second question, I think it is a problem. My machine also produces a squeaking noise during the kneading stage. I suspect the loose paddle causes the problem. I contacted Breville today and was advised to take the machine to the service centre for examination.

Hi Jessica, I tried the Laucke German Grain premix (600g pack, box of 4, 2.4kg total) and followed the Wholewheat Bread (100% WHOLEMEAL BREAD, page 90) recipe in the Breville manual . The finished product was quite a success, with the Laucke mix being like a cross between Wholemeal and Multigrain loaves that you would buy from the Bakery).

My only concern was that I needed to keep a close eye on the kneading phases, and intervened twice (press and hold start button to pause the machine), using a spatula to mix dry flour (that had been left behind) back into the dough. The mix was so sticky that it would collect in one corner of the pan and the paddle would slice through the mix instead of mixing and kneading as intended. I noticed that the machine worked much harder kneading this mix (than for crusty whites), and am concerned about accelerated spindle wear with this type of bread. Will try a slightly wetter mix next go, then experiment with custom flour/grain mixes. Keep you posted.

Hi TrishM,
Breville may have heard of this before and wish to answer but the only time our paddle ever becomes firm to move is when some bread has hardened in the overlap of the paddle and body of the pin they swivel on.

Being at the base of the unit the bread can cook within the narrow gap between the two elements. Especially if left in the baking chamber after bread is removed that can harden over time obstructing or making movement of the paddle more difficult. It also resists removal pretty tenaciously. Soaking as you have done then shaking under a fast stream of water with the possible use of a thin scraper or knife when this occurs has always worked fairly effortlessly for us.

We have probably never had a complete lock-up however if that is what you see. In that case perhaps the circlip between the two parts of the paddle has somehow locked itself in place.

Thanks Jaid for your response. Am happy to say that on reporting this to Breville via e-mail, I received a telephone response within 2 hours from Breville and they are going to send me a new paddle. Fantastic great customer service - wish there was more of it in Australia.

Hello Paulus. You must go through some bread :-) I agree, excellent programming that would be even better with a way to manage settings.

I was daydreaming about this a few weeks ago and the only thing that hung in my mind was sort of a bit techy for most bakers. It included USB (or even radio :-) ) output and a little application which could read that output into a matrix where the selection is indicated but also the range of options so that changes could be made incrementally and saved and installed.

Associated with this settings management would be recipe detail. This would deal with contents and quantities and take over the screen until settings mode is reached. It would include Breville's Recipe recommendations and when used in matrix form discussed below in conjunction with settings would create a matrix capable of making and recording subtle adjustments.

The next enhancement came when you could select several of these matrices and slide them over the top of each other to review the differences. if for example a maximum of 9 different 'recipes' could slide over the top of each other then your matrix may look something like a sudoku with the possible numbers in each box coloured differently according to each sheet. Selecting one would highlight it for change but you could still see the range used in the other 'recipes'

It wouldn't be rocket science but my guess is that many users have not the need even to use the excellent programmability available already so...may be a while coming.

Hi cornish1, I recently bought the BBM800 for baking
gluten free bread using raw almond meal. My time perfected recipe has needed some modification with bake time and temperature. If you want recipes please look at: http://glutenfreegoddess.blogspot.com.au/2011/08/gluten-free-bread-machine-tips.html and the best person in the business of gluten free is:
www.elanaspantry.com/almond-flour-recipes/
I reduced the bake temp down to 110C and kept the 135 minutes bake using the G'Free setting, but you had best trial your own according to loaf size etc. Be aware the dark thin crust is normal for these ingredients

Hello Brenton, you can vary the size of the loaf you choose to make. I find that generally, you can use 1 cup flour to each 100 mls liquid - eg 3 cups flour and 300 mls water, or 4 cups flour and 400 mls water. Of course depending on the type of flour used, you may have to adjust the quantities slightly. You can then make a loaf size to suit the two of you. You can also freeze the bread (cut into slices first) if you make extra, and just pull out the number of slices you need each day.

It is not the standard supermarket bagged cuboid form. It is however a pretty regular high loaf form particularly of the specialised bakery type. The height varies a bit according to your mix and quality of yeast. Although you can vary it, using the largest settings it is quite a large and high loaf. I think there are 3 standard sizes. Should go an look on the machine but wont. the plan form does not change just the height, the largest volume would be the only one where you get that more bulbous top you would be familiar with in high loafs. I have only had mine all this year but it gets a lot of use and performs admirably. The form may not match the supermarket one but it is still great for school lunches as well as great big sandwiches and chunks of bread with salad and mediteranean food. The machine can also be used to mix and rise many types of bread (including flat breads and pizza bases) which are formed and cooked elsewhere.

I cannot add anything to this question, other than agreeing with JAID's answer. I hope that has helped you. :)

Hi jt02

If you want an indication on how the loaf looks like from this machine, please check my YouTube videos. I have posted a few videos where I have made milk, french, sourdough bread loafs.

Link can be found under my profile or below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rLUEecfaW8&list=PLhGodf8Ujcc0nY6GxQhbiHsylNJC4f4yE

Super quick reply. Thanks, I'll wait to hear back from you before doing anything.

:-) Breville may have a re-think on the sound of this alarm after the traffic here. Your sound could be something more sinister I suppose but the extreme likelihood is that it is the standard sound the sound gives 15 minutes into standard cycle to signal that it is dropping any nuts/fruit and the like from their holder/chute in the lid into the mix. It sounds whether or not you have anything in there and that gives you the opportunity to manually drop material into the bread bin directly if desired. Sometimes, rare in my case you may want to put more of these extras in than the top chute would permit. It is kind of a raspy roar but in our case that is perhaps one of only two things which can alert us from any level or place in the house. Earlier readers will know what the other is.

The noise you are hearing is just the sound of the machine moving from kneading to resting etc.. This has been answered by Breville on a couple of occasions. My machine does this, at first I freaked, then I spoke to Breville and they explained it to me, so I don't pay any attention to the noise anymore. If you are worried get in touch with Breville, if you are still under their warranty take it back to store and see if you can get a replacement. In my opinion, it is just beeping function this machine has letting you know, there is function change.

I think you need to contact the store you bought it from, and also contact Breville.
But also remember there are long stages in the rising process, the light go off very quickly (inside one) the LCD stays on a while. If you are really worried, get in touch with the store or Breville. Good luck

Yes you can, just follow the directions that Breville have supplied. Good luck.

Tks, but thre isn't any cake recipe in the manual. I just bought one and tried to bake. The machine stop when it at rise 3. I tried to turn on but seems the machine is not responding. Do you have any idea?

Sorry i just sent in the question again as i hadnt seen your reply here before. I have tried calling that number and it doesnt work so i will send an email. Thanks again

Just spoke to your customer service rep and he was lovely. One of the best customer service dealings ive had in a very very long time.
Well done.

It can also be the handle of the loaf pan, I remove the handle then put it back on when the cycle is complete.

Thanks for the reply!

Hi Dave. Ive had several of the Breville Bread machines over the last 20 years (or so). Have made all sizes of loaves and havent had any major problems with the smaller loaf size. What you will probably find is that the loaf does not settle & rise quite as nicely on the 3rd rise and therefore doesnt bake nice & round like a larger loaf. Adjusting the water content slightly (up or down in teaspoon increments) should stop this from happening and give you a prettier loaf.

Hi Amanda,
Yes, you would use the Dough-Bread setting for your rolls. There are also Dough-Pizza and Dough-Pasta settings. The Dough-Bread setting mixes, kneads and does the first 'rise.'

The other Pizza setting shortens the 'rise' time and pasta removes it altogether.

The good thing about this machine is that you can programme all the steps yourself and operate using the 'Custom' setting. For your use if the timing was not quite as you like it for the rolls and like, you would be best to take the Dough-Bread setting and Modify it. Modify can show you what is pre-set, you can change and save as your own setting accessible through 'Custom'

Only getting getting it this year already it has turned out a hundred plus loaves and dough of all kinds; all with minimum time and work on our part and very proficiently. I am a true convert from our hand preparation of bread. The time alone saved already exceeds the cost of the machine and the saved purchase price of bread would have also.

Yes you can as far as I am aware, just follow the directions.

Hi Amanda, I have made a few bread rolls and asian breads using the Breville BBM800. They turn out really good. If you are interested, I have posted some videos on YouTube on the how to and steps in baking those breads.

The link to the videos is under my profile or can be accessed below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rLUEecfaW8&list=PLhGodf8Ujcc0nY6GxQhbiHsylNJC4f4yE

Hope this help.

eCurio sity

Look on the Breville site, or go into any store that carries them. Or you could even phone Breville themselves.