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roberiquez
- 4 reviews
HBF health insurance did not honour their policy with us
They paid doctors to write reports contrary to the findings and diagnosis from our surgeon and GP.
The in-house HBF doctor never met with us.
The in-house HBF doctor is hidden behind the scenes (no names or qualifications are disclosed)
Its cheaper for HBF to re-write the facts than to pay out.
Policy not worth the paper it is written on.
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HBF, you cannot use words like independent or non-biased when HBF is paying for an alternative opinion and diagnosis to be written. Of particular concern is that the HBF ghost in the shadows writes up... Read more
alternative medical views without even seeing or consulting the patient. In short, the HBF business model is this: if is going to cost HBF money, then its more cost effective to have the HBF in-house doctor write up fiction to get HBF out of paying up!
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HBF gave me anxiety.Metropolitan Adelaide, SA
By far the worst experience I’ve ever had, PERIOD.
Took more than 50+ phone calls, multiple times a day, everyday (excluding weekends) and over the course of 3 months to get 1 simple quote for surgery under medical circumstances. Had to take almost 2 months off work & they just keep lying about the fact why they’re not allowed to give you a quote? I’ve never been so frustrated in my life and at one point started crying over how frustrating this company was. I felt like they were playing a sick joke on me and I’ve never been so disappointed with an organisation like this before. I would never recommend. Even evil people probably still don’t deserve this. This is just a horrible place.
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HBF T.HBF
I am truly sorry to hear that this has been your experience, this is certainly not a feeling we want any of our members to have when preparing for surgery.
We would like to investigate this further for you, can you get in touch with us by email?... Read more
Best Regards Sam The HBF team [email protected] 133 423Similar opinion? Write a review on ieatwords.com.au!
dogitiaPerth, WA
- 3 reviews
disappointing
was on the hospital + essentials young saver plan or something its all changed now prices got up all the time. went to the hospital once had to see a E.N.T doctor huge gaps in the cover doctors have booking fees of like $250 per visit medicare is covering more than they are been with them for 7 years +
who are these people that are making the fees go up why are massages covered and not pharmacy and doctor booking fees not covered next year it will go up again the basic and bronze cover is rubbish gold is the only one that could be worth it
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HBF T.HBF
Hi, thanks for taking the time to leave your feedback. We always aim to do our best with both the cover and the service we provide and I am sorry to hear we have not hit both these marks for you.
We ... Read more
can certainly appreciate your disappointment. If you would like to send us an email we would like to hear more about your experiences so we can better provide for and assist all our members.Similar opinion? Write a review on ieatwords.com.au!
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AijinPerth, WA
- 2 reviews
- 3 likes
Disgusted,No sympathy.
My oarents have been a member since 1970s. They have paid thousands of dollars. Then they went on pension. Moved south, changed address.I let hbf know my parents changed address. Only to find out myself (went to a outlet) that they couldn't debit my parents card. Hbf didnot bother to send them a letter. (my parents are old, and dont about emails). We tried to solve the issue. But had to pay like $1000+ first just to continue the membership. Mum was really disappointed. Mum said all those years she and dad hardly use their membership.Only took ...Read more
it coz it was offered to dad via mining company back in the 70s.....Hbf has taken 1000s of dollars.And cant have any sympathy for long time members. Dont ever go with hbf they just want your money they dont care about their members.1 comment
HBF T.HBF
Hi Aijin, thank you for providing feedback. We're always aiming for the best member experience possible, and on this occasion, we did not meet your parent's expectations, and that is disappointing to ... Read more
hear. We know you have been put off by your recent experience, but we want to take the time to listen to your feedback and review your parent's experience with HBF so we can identify where we need to improve. If you can send an email to us with their details, we can review their experience.Similar opinion? Write a review on ieatwords.com.au!
etkPerth, WA
- 3 reviews
- 2 likes
Gapsaver not what its cracked to be if you leave
We have been paying the highest amount of gapsaver with HBF to create a bank for upcoming dental expenses. We've accumulated about $1000 of our own money. Recently we had to close our account because my husband has a health policy through his new job. When I questioned why my gapsaver wasn't refunded, I was told that it's not possible and I should have read the disclosure statement. When they sold me this scheme, there was absolutely no mention of this if we decided to leave. They told me that they will go back 2 years and use up as much of it...Read more
for me as possible. I've already claimed what I could using the gapsaver so looks like our hard earned money is lost forever. So just a warning to everyone about Gapsaver, don't let it build up too much because if you leave, there's no refund. Also pays to read the fine print, which they should tell you about during the sale. Furthermore, HBF have really cut back on their claim amounts so I'd be doing some shopping around. We have been with them for 20 years and this is the thank you!!!1 comment
HBF T.HBF
Hi, thank you for providing feedback. We're always aiming for the best member experience possible, and on this occasion, we did not meet your expectations, and that is disappointing to hear. We're s... Read more
orry to see you leave HBF and will be reviewing your feedback to see how we can improve in the future.Similar opinion? Write a review on ieatwords.com.au!
Sandra PeasePerth, WA
- 5 reviews
Terrible service
Making a phone call at 6.45am this morning has led to more frustration after dealing with a staff member. This lady who I have the name of, simply did not want to help me in anyway. I was asking questions and she was condescending and non caring. It costs nothing to give the customer the information they need to know. I will have to call back again with the hope that I can get the information that I need with some consideration given to me.
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HBF T.HBF
Hi Sandra, thank you for providing feedback. We're always aiming for the best member experience possible and on this occasion, we did not meet your expectations, and that is disappointing to hear. We... Read more
would like to have a conversation about your experience with our contact centre so that we can provide feedback and training. We know you have been put off by your recent experience, but we want to take the time to look into this for you. If you would like to have a chat about your experience please send us a message on Facebook with the below link or send us a email.Similar opinion? Write a review on ieatwords.com.au!
Misleading, uncaring, staff who don't do their job
Warning to customers or potential customers, do NOT trust this health insurer and do NOT trust any of their staff to ever act in the best interests of you. My own experiences have proven that this health insurer cannot be trusted and that their staff not only mislead you, they talk down to you, become condescending and don't to anything to try to assist with cover at all!!!
On top of this, they don't truly care about your health nor the mistakes their employees make and stand behind rubbish like "we have no evidence of a conversation in a bran...Read more
ch", "we have no documentation about a mistake an employee makes". So, basically, if not documented, they dismiss you and, directly or indirectly, label you a liar - this has happened to me on multiple occasions now. Beware!! These guys are useless and will not care for you or your family.2 comments
HBF T.HBF
Hi Steven,
After several conversations about your cover, your case is now with the Ombudsman for review. We would suggest you liaise any future communications with the Ombudsman while this under con... Read more
sideration. If you have any other queries regarding your cover, please contact us on 133 423.I didn't write this review to "liaise" with anyone, I wrote it for what it is, a review based on my experience with the health insurance provider. This is a free country where I can write a review if ... Read more
I want to and warn people about the poor customer service (note I am not the only on complaining) of the organisation. This is NOT a communication with HBF for this issue, it is a product review - learn the difference, Allan!Similar opinion? Write a review on ieatwords.com.au!
GazPerth, WA
Ill be running from hbf for a reason
Im not going into details on this site because i think i would run out of space but i will say this.
I have been a long time member with hbf and now i feel like they dont know whats going on and im just being fed mis information because it feels like everyone i talk to at hbf had there own answer to my problems and nothing is solved.
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Bill TAU
- 2 reviews
Anything that cannot be questioned, is unquestionably a lie.
I have been with HBF for well over 12 years, I was happy with the original product $46 per month, but they continually add extras to raise your premium (eg. comprehensive cover for ambulance) and each time I sit down and review my cover it is very hard to understand what I am covered for. The latest cover update has the usual increased premium and loss of valued cover options but best of all I am now covered for "Miscarriage and termination of pregnancy post 20 weeks gestation,+ Female and male sterility reversal." Great to know for a 52 year ...Read more
old male. For the name of the Plan, take your pic even that gets changed regularly. Last month I had the rare opportunity to place a claim ( I have not seen my doc for over 2 years) for the excess on a new pair of glasses but my $500 Gap saver amount I have accumulated over the years was not applied even when I asked it to be applied, today in garden city offices when I asked what it was for if I can't use it, I got a very vague answer that it is still there for next time. Every random possible claim question I asked today ( am I covered for eye lens change, joint replacement etc) the lady attending me went through a door and on her return a few minutes later I got a stuttered answer of " I am not sure, do you know what the number is for this procedure?" After all this effort I have no idea what I am covered for, but know that if I don't pay for it I will get a tax penalty anyway.2 comments
HBF T.HBF
Hi Bill
We appreciate that increases to premiums are a concern for our members and are taking steps to address affordability as evidenced by our lowest average rate increase in over 15 years. You ma... Read more
y have also seen some communication around changes to cover, some of this is relating to upcoming government reforms and with any changes to policies it is important we communicate this to all impacted members.Hi Allan B, Thank you for taking the time to reply, it is, however, a shame that you did not take the time to read or understand the complaint. HBF have raised premiums, HBF have removed areas of cove... Read more
r that are potentially relevant for future use, HBF have added cover that are physically impossible to use. The government policy changes do not condone or ask for this, they are attempting to make health cover honest, after dealing face to face with HBF staff this would appear an impossible task.Similar opinion? Write a review on ieatwords.com.au!
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SLBSydney, NSW
- 8 reviews
- 3 likes
Check your 2022 extra's cover - policy benefits have decreased - no need to put up with their appall
I was a member of HBF for over 5 years. I have never had a good experience with claims or customer service but I thought I had a good policy, hence why I stayed with them for so long. I received my new policy in November for 2022 and at first glance, it looked like they had made some improvements. Despite the annual amounts for physio & chiro decreasing, the amounts I could claim back per visit had increased - this was a positive. For some reason although osteo and chiro are combined they didn't increase the cover for Osteo - Go figure?
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MM86Perth
Pick up the phone
It's nearly impossible to get in touch with them if you have a claim. Waiting on hold every other day for 30 min before I give up and go to work. When I asked if they have an office where I can go and talk to someone, they said no, even the people answering the phone are based overseas. Shocking customer service!!
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Rob BootMelbourne
- 5 reviews
- Verified customer
HBF do not meet their obligation in providing health cover. They delay support by blaming surgeons,
In a time where we needed HBFs assistance most (the first time). I encountered the nightmare that is HBF.
HBF are effective at moving the goalposts and delaying any offer of assistance in supporting their members.
* They have told me that the report the GP has written is too brief in information in his report.
*They have told me the surgeons speak too fast for them to understand them.
* They tell me i cant get an official response because of power issues they are having.
* They tell me reports are being held up by thunderstorms.
* They tell me the government are slowing them down with 30 day lead times on freedom of information requests.
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Not a very good insurance company
One year I got nothing refund Bec of thenew policy I didn’t recieve they said I can’t do nothing about it hopeless people and you can’t really with them.
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Terrible customer service. They pretend to transfer you to other departments and automatically hang
Terrible customer service. They pretend to transfer you to other departments and automatically hang up. If you leave a voice message to have them call back, they still do not call back. I am not happy.
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OliverPerth
- 4 reviews
- 5 likes
Couldnt organise a dirt up at a brewery
3 years
Called on November 12th to cancel direct debit. Recorded on your system.
Received cancellation request from Bupa on 15th November. Recorded on your system.
21st November you debit my account. Nice one HBF! nice one!
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AleePerth, WA
- 14 reviews
- 4 likes
USED to be good value, they’ve cut so much I’m not even sure what I’m paying for now
Been with them for 3.5 years. They where great at first and good value for money, but they’ve cut more and more each year, now I’m not sure why I pay them $125 a month just for extras! I’m changing providers for sure
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SamPerth
- 2 reviews
- 3 likes
First claim in 4 years and get 9 dollars gap saver back
I have been with Hbf for more than 5 years paying 130aud monthly. Today, I decided to have my eyes checked and decided to get a new pair of glasses. My old ones full of scratches and no longer the right prescription. Total bill was 600 dollars and hbf only gave me 9 dollars back from the gap savers. My gap saver balance is about 940aud. Their trick is to cover the first item of the glasses parts. So if you're covered on the first one, you won't get covered on the lenses. Which is ridiculous. So gap saver is useless and basically fake saver. Ver...Read more
y disappointed and I definitely feel ripped off. They claimed that this is due to legislation. However, how can they cover for the frame but not the lenses. In their heart of hearts, I think this is an unfair thing to do to a loyal customer. Gutted!Similar opinion? Write a review on ieatwords.com.au!
Terrible Health Insurance
Staff unhelpful and rude. I found it impossible to get a straight answer regarding what will be covered. When the hospital tried to contact HBF on my behalf to get an answer they refused to disclose if I would be covered.
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samPerth, WA
- 2 reviews
Car insurance
more than 6 years health and they asked me to transfer my car insurance to them 2 years ago that was biggest mistake
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Borderline scam
Their model is broken, intended to suck your funds away and then not let you claim any benefits. I do not recommend HBF under any circumstances.
Their customer service is also nasty, sarcastic, and unwilling to help.
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Questions & Answers
Maxasked
Is Avapro 75 mg on the HBF schedule?
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Renaeasked
will HBF cover cancellation of flights if you and your family get struck with gastro and can't make your flights?
2 answers
I have saved up $600 in my 'Gap Saver' account.
I have very suddenly experienced severe financial hardships that I must attend to immediately.
Please can you let me know asap, (within W.A hbf & banking hours), today if I can withdraw part of the $600 I've saved up?
HBF T.HBF
Hi Lucia, GapSaver can't be withdrawn as cash. So we can try help, please give us a call on 133 423 or start a LiveChat with us at hbf.com.au
Best regards
Sam
The HBF Team
mambogirlasked
Hi can you claim a MRI scan ? As outpatient - Dr referral
No answers
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HBF T.HBF
Good morning
Thank you for taking the time to reach out about your recent experience.... Read more
A pre-existing condition is one where symptoms were known to exist during the six month period prior to the date of joining HBF or transferring to a higher level of cover. It’s not necessary for the condition to have been diagnosed in this 6 month period – only that symptoms were or would have been evident. HBF will appoint an independent medical practitioner to examine information provided by your doctor, together with other relevant claim details, to assess whether a condition is pre-existing. If it is confirmed that you have a pre-existing condition, you’ll need to wait 12 months from when you joined HBF or transferred to a higher level of cover before you’re able to make a claim relating to that condition. If you are unhappy with the outcome of your pre-existing query, you can request a review. You can send us an email or a private message on Facebook with the below links for more information on how to start the process. Best regards Hayden The HBF team [email protected] m.me/hbfhealth.