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Are they a good unit? We have a 2 bedroom little cottage house.
These are a very quiet unit, ideally suited for a bedroom or room of similar size. They don't do well in our open plan living area - just can't get the temperature down below about 27C during the recent hot weather. The only drawback I know of is that the display is very bright - such that it lights up the bedroom like a night light. I fixed this by removing the the display board from inside the front cover and covered the LEDs in black duct tape. Problem solved - a 10 minute job.
A 2KW air conditioner is good for a small room. 2KW is just about what an old fashioned 2 bar radiator heater produced. You wouldn't dream of trying to heat a whole house with one of those, but it is OK for a smallish room. Exactly the same principle applies for cooling rather than heating.
As to the Stirlings being a good unit - I have found them fine on 3 occasions. Remember they are just cheap Chinese devices (but then they ALL are, with a few exceptions) Much of the added cost comes when a brand name is slapped on them. With this kind of generic equipment the compressor is likely to come off the same production line as a so-called Brand Name. I remember fitting a unit badged with a local company's logo (D.E.C.) and sold by an electrical appliance major and later finding out the user manual was identical right down to the cartoon illustrations with the manual for a Mitsubishi unit. In other words the Mitsi sold for a premium, the D.E.C. was just a rebadged Mitsi...or maybe it was the other way round!!
Aldi have a track record of selecting pretty decent stuff from amongst the "cheap and cheerful" ranges, and a pretty good warranty record.
Are the Aldi AC units (currently selling 3.3kw in Dec 2016) whisper quiet (e.g. virtually noiseless) when the air comes from the wall unit? I am not referring to the motor/fan outside.
My query arises from my past experience. We have lived with an LG for 10 years that stated it was whisper quiet but has sounded like a jumbo jet in take-off mode (I slightly jest but its incredibly noisy compared to units I've heard in other people's homes). So before I commit to a big brand, I thought I'd ask you all about the Aldi AC and the reviews I've read so far are quite positive. So let me know when you can (and any other information/suggestions are welcome). Regards, Peter.
Yes - these units are very quiet. With the normal household noise levels, I find myself holding my hand up to make sure it's running - even when on high speed. My wife did complain about a very slight whining noise coming from the bedroom unit, but I can only hear it if everything was dead quiet. It only seems to be present on that particular unit.
As I said in my review, the only problem is that they draw a lot of power for what doesn't seem like a lot of cooling when you have it in a room that's bigger than a bedroom.
I notice that Aldi does market bigger units (according to their website) - you just have to keep an eye out for when they come on sale. I'd be surprised if any Aldi store had any of this season's 2.3kW units left as of 13/02/17.
Thank you. Your description is very helpful.
I found the three I put in more than acceptably quiet. There is the sound of rushing air when the fan is on high, but I never found it sufficiently objectionable that I even thought about it. Mine were in an office and a dining room. A bedroom might be a different matter.
We have a Stirling a/c which has stopped working and displays E0 which is an error with the unit. However E0 is not in the instruction manual. Any ideas
Hi Dave,
This is not a definitive answer but something worth trying. On the basis that with much Asian sourced equipment every designer looks over the shoulder of every other designer and copies what is useful, it is possible multiple manufacturers have used the same chip set in their controllers. That is true for wall ovens - from cheap to expensive - many seem to use the same chip. Here E0 may well be the flag for blocked condensate discharge pipe,
I have a portable that exhibits the same E0 message. The cure is to drain the condensate tank. In the case of a split you may find creatures have built a nest in the condensate discharge tube, or gunk is blocking its discharge somewhere. It is easy to check and eliminate as a cause. Of course there is no guarantee that your E0 is the same as mine.
If you do find out the actual meaning of E0 I would appreciate a post or PM telling what it turned out to be.
Aldi's service agents on their support line may also be able to tell you. It's quite a flaw not to publish the error codes.
Good luck,
P
Mate I appreciate your feedback and I will get back to you when I get the unit running again.
Dave T
Dave, did you ever find the problem, got home this afternoon and the breaker had blown and now the unit has the same E0 error
Our 3,3kW external unit only has covers on the fan inlet and the RHS. The LHS and back are exposed radiator element, but there's holes for each coverplate to be attached. Is this a shortship of 2 coverplates??
Hi Carole,
My recollection of the construction of the Stirlings I have fitted is fading as It was a few years ago and i have since sold the house - so I can't go and look. From recollection there should be panels/covers all round. Certainly the sides and front were panelled, and it would only be sensible to protect the delicate radiating fins from the back as well.
Tempo claim this is a design feature in the 3.3kW, altho' there's grilles fitted to the 2.6kW. I've escalated to Aldi mngmt because it's obviously a manufacturer error - mine has bent fins from a bump through the cardboard packaging.
I need to have the refrigerant piping come out of the right hand side of the internal unit. I can't see any flanges on the pipe that is attached that I could loosen to allow me to turn the piping. Is it safe to just twist the piping to the right hand side without damaging it? Thanks
No, you will kink it. You must buy a pipe bender to bend it at rightangle. If it is a one time use, you can get a cheap one on ebay for abour $15. Get the multi size that will bend 3/8" and 1/4" pipes (I think that is the pipe sizes from memory). Outside of this borrow or call a plumber/air-con guy if you are not confident.
Whether you will kink it depends on the bend radius you achieve. However it is highly undesirable to bend the pipes coming out of the evaporator (indoor unit) AT ALL. Not because of kinking, as much as never being able to service the unit by withdrawing it from the wall if pipes are passed through the wall then bent. Cut them short by all means, but allow that you may (small chance) have to pull the evaporator out at some time. If you are talking about a "simple" back to back installation then try to offset condenser and evaporator so the pipes don't need to be bent. I have found the evaporator pipes will bend without kinking if done gently and you don't try for a sharp bend. In theory kinks could upset the gas flow and the lubricating oil that is entrained in the flow. In practice I have not noticed that it happens, or if it does, has any noticeable effect. If I recall the Aldi units have a channel at the rear of the evap unit just so you can bend the pipes to exit from the other side. Not sure about that last, because it has been a few years since I put a Stirling in. If in doubt about the bending, get hold of a scrap piece of soft copper tubing and practice a similar bend as you intend and see the effects. Water pipe will do - copper is copper after all and air-con pipe differs (MAYBE!) only in the degree of impurity removal. It's all soft copper, so a lot more forgiving of bending than the hard drawn stuff.
Is there any way you can turn off the power display, without having to walk outside and turn the main power to the unit off? We have the unit installed in the bedroom and even when you have it turned off via the remote control the power indicator is lit up and if you're used to complete dark when you go to bed like I am it can keep you awake.
Not done easily. Options are to put an isolator switch for that circuit or the whole system in the bedroom. I also am used to complete darkness so I throw a shirt over it. Maybe a piece of thick white cardboard would also do the trick.
Put black tap over it
hi when you buy these air conditioners from Aldi does it come with the hoses or do we have to buy them separately? thanks
They supply one short cable about 2m from outside unit to main power. You must supply all electrical & copper pipes between the inside & outside. Anywhere from 1m- 10m depending on location . Might also need draining pipe extensions. Only 2m supplied from memory.
It comes with what you need. The electrician and plumber will take care of the install. Mine cost 700 all up to wire and plumb
Hi there - What size space does the Aldi 2.3kw unit heat/cool. I've been told by a refrigeration mechanic that it wont make much difference to my living area which has an open area kitchen, dining and lounge (equivalent to 3 average bedrooms). The mechanic said it is only be effective for one bedroom. Would love some feedback quick as I need to make a decision of whether to go with a bigger one.
Thank you
They are good for a bedroom. He's right because mine is 5kw and does the area you want to heat and cool very well
Recall that an old fashioned 2 bar radiator gives off around 2KW of heat. So a 2point-something KW air-con unit, (whether heating or cooling) has a similar effectiveness. It's hard to relate KW to subjective heating or cooling, but a pretty good guideline is "would a two bar radiator heat this space enough for me?"
Whether you are heating or cooling is fairly irrelevant - it's all about how much heat energy you are putting into a room (heating) or taking out (cooling). And remember the quoted KW capacity is NOT the same thing as the electrical power drawn.
That is why the 2.3KW Aldi units are pretty right for a small to medium bedroom, but under powered for a typical living room.
PAFMelb36
Where is the Aldi Stirling split air conditioner made?
Germany
Aldi is a German company. That does NOT mean their goods are made in Germany. The Stirlings (an Aldi brand name) are almost certainly Chinese. According to The Economist, 80% of air cons are made in China. Reference FYI http://tinyurl.com/pnt6fos
I want to get one of these to replace a new convair POS. Are the electronc contols safe from vermin and insects? I have had two boards fry on that othrr piece of crap because a mouse got in one and a millipede fried the other
Should be fine. Mine is 3 years old and no problem with insects or mice ruining the electronics.
The external unit is well sealed so I dont see a problem here. The internal does have some smaller wires which lights the LED with temperature. If mounted tight to wall and the area around cables & pipes coming in is sealed well there should be no problem.I understand your concern but I think controlling the vermin is the real answer. I suggest a good physical and chemical barrier. I have had no problems in 3 years.
I have lost my remote for my air conditioner where can I purchase another one?
For a replacement remote control, enter the make and model number of your air conditioner into Google (or whatever search engine you use) along with the word Remote. You will be offered many varieties of remote from original manufacturer units, to copies, through to generic units which will work on a variety of air conditioners. Best to match the remote to your particular model of air con. Prices will vary - I found a non-brand name remote for less than $20.oo (delivered) which has performed flawlessly for at least two years.
Can anyone tell me what is the maximum (reasonable) room capacity / volume for the 2.3 kW model currently available from Aldi.
Also can anyone comment on the fan noise improvement in the latest / current model ?
Rex
Hi Rex, I can't comment on the fan noise improvement but would assume that this issue is resolved after 4 years of r&d. My split system easily heats and cools a 10 metre long by 8 meter wide room. This unit will easily do a 10 to 11 square home. Hope this helps
It cools about 60m2 in our house (with full roof insulation). Fan noise is pretty quiet. Cannot hear from inside and outside it's a dull murmur. Hope this helps
Thanks folks. We have a long narrow living space - 12 m x 3.6 m - and have been advised by other suppliers and installers that we need a larger capacity system e.g. 5 kW or 6kW for our heating / cooling. We have opted to go with two smaller - 2.5kW - units which will give us the option of heating / cooling one end of the space or the other at any one time. This suits our living style too. We can be comfortable in either the Dining space or the TV / sitting space for the cost of running just one unit at a time. Their lower power needs also better fit our 3kW PV production, particularly using the cooling cycle in the summer.
2KW is just about what an old fashioned double bar radiator puts out. Heat output is heat output whether its positive (heating) or cooling (negative) 2KW is fine for a small room. and because an aircon has an inbuilt air mover (fan) its output will fill a space better than just by radiation and natural convection. A 2Kw unit won't make much of a dent in a large room. Rex, you are on the money with using two units and your thoughts re PV output and scaling down to use one unit on milder days. Although 2 small units will cost more to buy and install than one of equivalent combined size, and inverter technology has thrown out some of the older wisdom re power consumption, multiple units means you are not left toasty if one unit fails, and your energy management is much easier.
Important thing to remember about aircon is the KW cited is always the heat pumping power, not the energy consumption. You are not turning electricity into heat (or cool). You are using it to extract heat from the inside air and moving it to the outside. That is a MUCH more efficient process than the way a bar radiator works - hence the discrepancy between electrical consumption and cooling/heating effect. Remember they do call aircon "Heat Pumps".
Rule of thumb is divide the rated power by 3 to 3.5 and you get the electrical power consumed. So a 2.5Kw aircon will consume about 750 watts. Pretty good. The gain factor is called the co-efficient of performance (COP) and is a measure of the efficiency of a unit.
In another post here I stated I was very happy with the Aldi units for performance, but dark on them for reducing the power of their offering from 6KW when they first came out, to 2.3Kw and keeping the price at $599.00. Maybe they thought no-one would notice.
How do l get the heating to work on this model please?
You need to press mode until you see a sun ☀ icon in the top right hand corner of the controller . Then set to desired temperature on controller
Thanks but I tried mode but cannot get heat sign up
There is two buttons on the remote termed 'Cool' and 'Heat'. Push the 'on' button then press 'heat' button. It should start on a default setting of 28 degrees C. Adjust by moving up and down arrow in the centre.
No luck both switches are to the left on the back of the controller have hit mode but heat Light does not come up
Problem solved took battery out replaced heat symbol came up works ok thanks
Hi Folks!
Just need a little advice on the following:
I just purchased a Stirling Air Conditioner, we are going to replace a Daiken 2.5 HP unit. Can we use the existing pipes and electrical circuit? Please explain how a technician can replace this unit using the existing resources. We have at least two friends that are waiting on how we go then they will do as we have done. Hope they can still buy a unit.
Regards,
Ian F
Depending on the refrigerant, some older units are R 22. The new units are either R410 or R32. These are not compatible and require new pipe work. The electrics should be sufficient.
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